Even the song, Somnus, fits in to the story of this game now: And his (her) children (Lucians) start a fire (Ardyn). From here on out, whenever the player hits a switch, it represents an action being taken. The story in Pitioss, as said in our last post is a tale told through symbolism. http://imgur.com/829cqW6, During the quest “Ascend The Rock Of Ravatogh” Vyv says, “if you really want to impress people, you’ve got to show them something they’ve never seen before. Pitioss Ruins is a special dungeon that requires the Regalia Type-F, as it is enclosed in a mountainous region. Not where we entered, but close by, mimicking Ifrit’s final exit from the Underworld. We slowly went through Pitioss and studied every item and what we know they mean. Do you see it?? Past the statue of Ifrit, the only path forward is random, twisted steel beams. http://imgur.com/On4wiww. Hope to see you there! For Final Fantasy XV on the PlayStation 4, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Pitioss Ruins; REVELATIONS FFXV Theory. Ifrits in early Islamic lore are said to be formed from the blood of murder victims. The soul of the star is in the crystal. Ifrit is fickle as fire, emotional, and a romantic. You slide down a long shaft very quickly. Remember how earlier we discussed that Ifrit originally entered via the Lestallum Crater? One last question remains… If all Ifrit wanted was to be with Eos, why not just die with her down in the Underworld? His face is skeletal and damaged. http://imgur.com/E74VkbZ. The spike platforms move up & down, left & right, its pure chaos in here. Please send help. He fought SO hard to save Eos, literally going to the depths of hell & back, giving up his life, only to die in the end, and knowing that his efforts were for naught. From here, we climb to the next switch that causes a second meteor to blast through the door that had been blocked. In short—and really, you should read this entire theory—perona77 argues that Pitioss tells the story of Ifrit’s love for the goddess Eos. Noctis takes huge damage from the fall, almost dying. The player gets closer to Eos and soon the only way to continue is to jump onto her chest. However, the Pitioss Ruins theory goes beyond this and simply assumes at face value that if X happened with equivalent characters in the Greek myth, then the equivalent must be true in Final Fantasy XV. Let us stress here that Pitioss is NOT where these events actually occurred. This explains why the Lucis & Nox family have powers separate from the crystal. We want to change our original statement that this is Eos’s actual corpse from our previous Pitioss theory post. In our original Pitioss: A Tale of Love & Despair post, several commenters pointed out holes in our theory that we kind of agreed with. It’s showing Ifrit’s long and very deep descent. Interestingly, hidden at the top of the door frame to enter the next room are some Marlboro Vines. From Ifrit’s point of view, he knows that he is on the final legs of his ascent with Eos. Other than that small detail, everything else is us. selective, independent, canon divergent roleplay blog for noctis lucis caelum of ffxv, incorporating the pitioss ruins theory. I can’t remember who the OP was for this idea, but basically they thought that the giant female statue could be the corpse of a long forgotten Astral. “Taste again the chill wind of death”….So Shiva confirms in game that Ifrit has died before. At the dead end, you must turn around to follow another path which leads you back to the Ifrit statue. He is completely burned in the Big Bang art. This can be evidenced by the building materials ALL OVER this dungeon, represented through items like rusty bits, chrome bits, metal scraps, building stones….Ifrit had a specific reason for this location…but we will get to that at the end. We believe this is Ifrit embracing her & then quickly cutting her chains, freeing her. We were blown away at the response it had, and are thrilled that it sparked so many of you to discuss the masterpiece that is Pitioss & got people interested in re-playing this often overlooked gem. Ifrit placed these Wall Guards throughout Pitioss for two purposes: one to represent when he fights a daemon, and two, to force the player down the correct path of his story. The dungeon's design is dominated by glowing orange spikes, numerous statues of unknown figures, and in its deepest chamber, a giant stone statue of a woman holding a sword over her head; the identities of the figures are unknown, but the giant statue of the woman appears to be the focal point of the ruins, being found in their deepest point before the player begins their return to the surface. Inspired by the Pitioss ruins theory.. #final fantasy xv #ffxv #final fantasy 15 #pitioss #fanart #ifrit #goddess eos #pitioss dungeon #pitioss ruins #digital art … Click the register link above to proceed. We were convinced that this tale HAD to be true. Let’s move on…we head through the now open door, and the music changes to dungeon music and a notice of officially entering Pitioss Ruins pops up…as if saying you weren't in it before. These tiles seem to represent the 4 Four Fiends of Chaos from FF!!! The Golden Hourglass. Almost every surface in this tunnel is covered with oozing, desperate scratch marks and patches of large drag marks, oozing star scourge. Prawn Antennae are dropped by the lobster like Karlobos monster. Weird, right? Pitioss’ Ruins: my experience + talking a bit about the theory [SPOILER ALERT! The figure in BB art has wings, and the Ifrit statue doesn’t! Inside the globe itself we noticed something crazy! They’re Astrals, Divine Beings, couldn’t they of purified the crystal themselves? We are happy that it got a lot … That is why he has burns on half of his body. CHAPTER 2: THE GREAT RIVER & THE PHANTOM TRAIN, After crossing a short series of jumps, the player lands in a long rectangular room with 5 doors, and another Ifrit statue. Right after this hall of chaos, the player’s perspective radically changes & a new somber song begins to play. It will be accessible to you once you obtain the Regalia Type-F and get back to the open world exploring. (At this point, we originally thought that Eos was dead at this part of the tale. If he had not gotten Eos’ out when he did, and purified her body with the Pyre, her light would’ve gone out, bringing eternal night. Also, at some point after his first death and retrieving the crystal from Eos’ heart, Ifrit in his messenger’s body must have built Pitioss ruins. http://imgur.com/hxgqEhd, Huh. In particular, we couldn’t find a placing for for Tiamat & Kraken. One of the first puzzles that Noctis solves in the Pitioss Ruins is to unleash a huge metal ball that smashes the head and arm off of the huge statue holding the door closed to the next room. In FFV Karlobos is a boss that guards a great river. No enemies inside the dungeon. There’s desperate scratch marks all over the wall, oozing star scourge. At some point, Bahamut must’ve stolen the Crystal from him. He keeps looking for a way out, ripping doors open forcefully, climbing through tunnels, traversing pitfalls…but they are all dead ends. Ifrit needs this place to pass the test of time, an actual train would be difficult to maintain. At the cost of his life, at the cost of becoming a Betrayer, at the cost of spreading star scourge unto the world. Ok! Include crossovers; Exclude crossovers; Show only crossovers; Completion Status. It’s only once we officially enter the “first” room of Pitioss that we start getting the crazy imagery. It’s way too long and intricate to quote in full here, but here’s perona77's summary: The story in Pitioss, as said in our last post is a tale told through symbolism. http://imgur.com/PpxwtZR. The red Glowing Wall Guards are literally daemons he has to fight. There are screenshots of Gladio in the Taelpar Crag area with Cor. Her picture in the Big Bang art, and her statue both depict her as having her eyes open. That’s why the developers left Somnus in the game! It’s fantastic. Such an amazing theory. Pitioss Ruins Theory (9) Angst (3) Fix-It (3) Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence (3) Fluff (2) Death (2) Alternate Universe (2) Time Loop (2) Spoilers (2) Happy Ending (2) Other tags to exclude More Options Crossovers. In an elaborately constructed argument that involves old-school Final Fantasy references, Greek mythology, and tragic Shakespearean pathos, perona77 proposes the idea that Ifrit was actually a good guy, not the nasty villain he appears to be in Final Fantasy XV. Her burning, crystalized heart was still that hot! EPILOGUE: “The True Story of FFXV Revealed”. There’s a giant hole in the globe that you have to jump through to reach the center of the globe…all while dodging fiery spikes (could this represent lava?). Eos’ soul is in the crystal. And boy, did we find something! http://imgur.com/SUBh6ly, Ifrit isn’t in the Underworld yet, rather deep inside the planet Eos, approaching the Door to the Underworld. As her corpse burned, the ash and smoke rose in the sky, releasing the star scourge throughout the planet. Doomtrain literally rolls up to the perch, and it is inserted in to his chin, just where the bottom of his tongue would be! A video response to the Pitioss Ruins: Revelations theory offering an alternative interpretation of the imagery and symbolism found in Pitioss. This could be like a turnstyle at the entrance to a train station…, This next room is Doomtrain’s station in the Underworld. The Gods in Greek & Roman Mythology!! Things. And then FINALLY, the reason Ifrit has trekked through absolute hell & faced so many dangers is before him. This is represented by all the obstacles that can push you off your platform. Pitioss Ruins Bosses. http://imgur.com/avPKWYZ, His face has changed! Let’s look at Ifrit during the Citadel battle. On my 2nd play through I came back knowing the reward is crap but just wanted to go through it again She was pregnant. Red lighting can be used to convey several emotions….violence, anger, or passion. It is widely believed that Episode Gladio involves going in to the Underworld. This inspired us to revisit Pitioss & think even further outside the box. Notice that his statue seems to have smashed through a steel beam that runs the length of room…more imagery that he has smashed through something. The article made it seem like the whole theory was debunked, however, we contacted the author of the Kotaku article and based on his response the only part that was debunked was the fact that Ifrit loved Eos. Pitioss is one of the more unique dungeons in Final Fantasy 15. http://imgur.com/BqE6RQ1, Up to this point, you could have turned around and walked all the way out, but once you hit the switch to enter here, you cannot go back… we’re in it for the long haul now! My god…how tragic is this?!? There are holes in the ground, loosely stacked pillars, haphazardly placed stones… Solheim started to build this place, abandoned it, and later, Ifrit used it to build a sanctuary for his tale. This is the realm of the dead, the point of no return. This perfectly falls into place with everything we have laid out for you about Pitioss Ruins. “A dead flame must burn no more”…Why is he a dead flame?? Her burning, crystalized heart was still that hot! Don’t forget Doomtrain is in Amano’s Big Bang art. The last thing the other Astrals would want to do is touch Star Scourge. Everything else seems to be of Ifrit’s making. Visualize this hall room as a river that Ifrit has been sucked in to and must traverse to reach the Door to the Land of the Dead. Each of us noticing things that the other didn’t. The first puzzle to progress further involves bouncing a giant ball off the cage. http://imgur.com/2XANm3E. Not the Lucian Kings, not The Oracles, and certainly not the other Astrals! A hand, jutting out of the wall. Well, Perona77, that’s a nice little theory you two have there, but it’s only a THEORY! The player boards an elevator, as the player rides the elevator, you can notice that it is a very quick ascent. SUMMARY: We want to thank everyone who previously read and enjoyed our Pitioss Ruins: Revelations theory. Get. This story begins and ends with Ifrit. That would be a huge taboo in the eyes of the other Astrals... http://imgur.com/B7Sosgw. They want every trace of the original Eos to be erased, and if her bloodline can’t do it, then fuck the planet, enjoy your eternal night. http://imgur.com/kruAgsG, Something to note here is that you find the Genji Gloves at her navel. Many people in our previous thread argued with us that this is NOT Doomtrain. Until you actually arrive at the statue of Eos, anytime you see her below, it represents Ifrit thinking of her, not that he actually sees her. Their theory is the Pitioss Ruins were built by Ifrit and that the strange puzzles, statues, and architecture function as a means of telling his own tragic story. http://imgur.com/AjrpFrD. There is nothing in this room of chaos that looks like people from Solheim built. You can see Eos’s statue clearly at just one point while in this room. That’s an odd choice of words…a Pyre refers to a cremation burial…. But somehow, this still isn’t quite enough…. Burning her on the Pyre spread the star scourge into the air, but it was a necessary evil. Don’t believe us? This lines up with Tabata’s comments during the FEB 2nd ATR that a “certain” developer wanted to put a floating head of Ramuh in Pitioss. She is not far from death's door, and he knows that he is going to die, so why the frenzied escape from the depths? It feels like bad story writing to have Gladio leave the party then randomly reappear later fighting Daemons in the power plant. /r/FFXV/comments/5w8ws8/eos_revelations/, DOUBLE UPDATE 2/17: Kotaku has picked up Pitioss:REVELATIONS and written an article about it! We disagree on that point. “That heart of flame was turned to ash once”…what could have turned Ifrit’s heart, master of fire, into ash? They most likely believed that nothing was wrong, and Eos would be fine in her prison of utter darkness, continuing the cycle of Dawn for all eternity. Could Ifrit have been anticipating an encounter with Shiva, Ramuh, & Bahamut?? http://imgur.com/TZaQSqK, Time is running short for Ifrit, and he has no way out…at one point in this part of your trek out of Pitioss you find the Pendulum accessory…another allusion to running out of time. So where does Gladio start his journey with Cor? If Ifrit had not saved Eos when he did, the last of her light would’ve been extinguished, and there never would of been another dawn! How appropriate is Chapter 0 now?! Take a look around, this place has the same architecture as Costlemark Tower and Steyliff Grove, but it is grossly unfinished! We really encourage you the player to play this part of Pitioss with this imagery in mind. She must have despaired from her fate and let the darkness overtake her, turning her once majestic light into the purest form of darkness to the point that it literally oozes out of her. It’s a cavern. Several points from here have been rewritten from the original post to convey this point.) Based off evidence of the Prawn Antennae we can decipher what happened here. A few days ago, I read a thread on here about theories for the Pitioss Ruins. Shiva calls Ifrit “Pyreburner”. Ifrit is fickle as fire, emotional, and a romantic. Maybe nothing...maybe everything... MEGA UPDATE 2/26: We've just gone live with our newest post, EOS : REVELATIONS. http://imgur.com/3WTNxrR, Here Ifrit is clinging on to his log, struggling to hang on. :) You made our day! http://imgur.com/22edcA3. Most all of them have a common theme: A blue choker to increase HP recovery, Safety Bit to protect from sudden death, Silver Bangle to increase HP, a Megalixer to restore full health. As to the Goddess figure, she would be the one to bless this human and/or their lineage with the ability to stop Ifrit's scheme from destroying humanity. We then jump out of the side of the building. It has a hole in it…the same shape and size of the Dark Lucian Crystal. Ifrit saved her just in time, before the last of her light was extinguished. He is dying!! http://imgur.com/yjHBNik, There is imagery in here that references Charon from greek mythology, but In the Final Fantasy universe, Doomtrain plays this role. Like no other gemstone in the world, Ruby is the perfect symbol for powerful feelings. He must’ve cut open her heart and reached inside to retrieve the Crystal. The next room has the giant spinning globe with another Ifrit statue perched above it. There’s no combat, only puzzles and platforming, and you go through the whole dungeon without any of your party members. Please read our tale to the end, so you can fully grasp the majesty and depth Square Enix has snuck into this game. A jumpingpuzzle not even Satan him self would use to torture his subjects with." The story that follows next through symbolism & hints is the climax. This might be a hint as to what awaits in the next room. We see Ifrit in a cage. http://imgur.com/E74VkbZ, We are positive that while Ifrit originally enters the Underworld in Lestallum, he exits the Underworld somewhere in Taelpar Crag. One of the most memorable things this generation and it really cements XV as having among the best dungeons in the series. I spent 4 hours in here the 1st time and it was mind boggling. http://imgur.com/wqyhnL3, (Oh look…Noctis is riding on the back of Doomtrain…towards his death…). http://imgur.com/gGDHe1X, This would explain why daemons sometimes appear in the power plant…not because of star scourge in the meteor, but because deep below is a direct hole to the Underworld! He’s artistic. The steel beam leads to a small tunnel, finally, they are able to ascend. Hopefully through future content, we'll get the true story of pitioss whether this theory is confirmed or not. Regardless, this is the last leg of Ifrit’s journey out of the Underworld. This reminds us of something… http://imgur.com/4knAvLR, That isn't a cave, it's a crystallized heart. It’s not canon unless there's proof in the game! Ifrit unintentionally save the world with his act of pure love. http://imgur.com/id7RSBy, This short conversation conveyed SO much. This room is after the whirlpool, Ifrit is under the water and must get to the surface. This part is jarring & scary. UPDATE 2/17: Prince Freakin' Noctis has read Pitioss Ruins: REVELATIONS! Eos is running out of time. So finally, Ifrit has reached his goal. http://imgur.com/oCj5iLQ http://imgur.com/RLIxQe7 It is here that Eos meets her end...Ifrit used all the items and spells that he could, but it was not enough...Eos was too far gone. read rules before following & feel free to send a meme to start a thread! Or you could take it as that it is going down his throat, he’s eating it. He wants to lay his tale out in a very visual & symbolic way, down to the last detail. At this point we believe Ifrit goes berserk and starts rampaging in the cavern. Pitioss Ruins Enemies. This explains the heavy use of symbolism throughout Pitioss Ruins. But no. Made all this effort worth it. There is this weird patterned, mosaic interior. He must’ve cut open her heart and reached inside to retrieve the Crystal. Moving Spike Wall of Death¶ That is certainly a large and dangerous obstacle here in this room that you will need to constantly watch at the… Remember….Ifrit is a romantic, Eos is his beloved, & he is undertaking this massive journey for her sake. http://imgur.com/dTIYTeD, The second Meteor is thrown at the spot that becomes Lestallum in the future. Could she have fallen in love with a human, and become pregnant? Ifrit goes as far as to side with and aid Ardyn , slowing the plans of the other Astrals for centuries. Pitioss Ruins … Paying attention to even the smallest of details in Pitioss truly opened the story to us in a completely new way. 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