Army Construction changes are a significant boost – not being forced to try and build a dual battalion of Strike Marines gives you more flexibility. Nemesis falchions are now four points for the pair while everything else is free, so yeah don’t take those any more huh. Get the latest info, sweet deals, and additional Frontline content through our email list. The Grey Knights. I'll give some of my opening thoughts on grey knights going into 9th, and then break down the lists. It’s also much, much harder for opponents to try and work around you – spending a few turns screening your army out and remaining at a safe distance is just going to result in them losing the game on primary scoring. We take you through all the biggest nerfs and buffs to the Grey Knights army along with the core strategies and thoughts on list creation. The Grey Knights have a special preference for the use of deep strike tactics, particularly the utilisation of teleportation and Stormraven and Thunderhawk Gunships. You’ve got a couple of options for how you can deploy this on the board depending on how assertive you think your opponent is going to be turn one. Against anything that isn’t widely ignoring cover or putting out AP-3, this should give an enemy a real fight. Also the phrasing “another power” can be used to select the same power in a subset of power for each trial. Psycannons also go up a few points, so you probably don’t want to stick one of those in each unit either (though Psilencers are still pretty cheap), and all together you end up paying more for a unit that just does a bit less across the board. Played a decent amount of monoscions in 8th and now a few in 9th. With Psychic Awakening, their durability Increased with the Tides, Stratagems, new psychic … With the amount of smites one can throw reduced, you might want to flex into some offensive powers, but I went with all the main utility abilities for now. Who knows but it feels like one of those old 5th edition lists when Grey Knights were high in fashion. So definitely dont get excited until we know. Read the top 5 takeaways from today’s updates on Warhammer Community. The initial detection of daemonic infestation is left to the Inquisitors of the Ordo Malleus, but the majority of combat is wisely left to the Chamber Militant. First, Chaos Space Marines & Grey Knights don’t get an extra wound. Pyroalchi. Terminators x5, 1 hammer, 3 halberds, 1 stave – 205 Power: Gate of Infinity, Terminators x5, 1 hammer, 3 halberds, 1 stave – 205 Power: Hammerhand, Terminators x5, 1 hammer, 3 halberds, 1 stave – 205 Power: Astral Aim, Apothecary, hammer – 95 Power: Gate of Infinity. That’s the bad news – the good news is that several other things the Grey Knights can do go up in value. Like all armies, Grey Knights have some objectives they’re especially well suited to, and some they’re a bit less keen on. Sons of Titan. Yes you can as it stands now. The Grey Knights are the legendary Chapter 666 - and although nominally a Chapter of the Astartes, they are in the Chamber Militant of the Inquisition. Subscribe to our e-mail newsletter to receive updates. 0. Laurence, aka Spider is a very competitive player, he heads up the site and the YouTube channel with a team. Firstly with an average cost increase i think grey knights will be very strong going into 9th, my only concern is that we need IMO 4 characters to have a spread of all the powers required, so as you'll see i try and keep this in all my lists. One of the ways to beat them was definitely to just weather their initial storm and then run them out of stuff, and having one fewer turn to do that, in combination with the wide variety of tricks they can pull, puts opponents under pressure from the word go. will have a minimum of 3 attacks total. Page 1 of 2 - Tabletop Tactics - GK vs Black Legion - posted in + GREY KNIGHTS +: Tabletop Tactics released a tactica video a few days ago, Grey Knights vs Black Legion. Grand Master Dreadknight, hammer, psilencer, psycannon, teleporter, warlord – First to the Fray, Relic – Augurium Scrolls – 250 Power: Gate of Infinity, Voldus – 160 Powers: Armoured Resilience, Edict Imperator, Empyrean Domination, Kaldor Draigo – 190 Powers: Warp Shaping, Armoured Resilience, Terminators x5, 4 Halberds, 1 Stave – 190 Power: Vortex of Doom, Terminators x5, 4 Halberds, 1 Stave – 190 Power: Hammerhand, Terminators x5, 4 Halberds, 1 Stave – 190 Power: Astral Aim, Paladins x10, 9 halberds, 1 stave – 500 Power: Gate of Infinity, Paladins x5, 4 halberds, 1 stave – 250 Power: Sanctuary, Apothecary, halberd – 80 Power: Warp Shaping. Grey Knights initially got a bit shafted thanks to not having a box set, but with the Kill Team Annual 2019 publication, they got an updated list helping cover a lot of their holes. Grey Knights Tactics and Strategies. Grey Knights have been called boring, bland and repetitive and this is certainly true to an extent in the basic template of the army. Two big changes have hurt Grey Knights. This is my second article discussing that new Grey Knights list. Top 5 Takeaways. Dreadnoughts got pretty light point changes, and the old staple of the Astral Aim sniper Vendread is probably still semi-fine, maybe even a bit better (though also totally skippable). Twitter 0. … We’ll finish up, as ever, with a couple of army lists, one from me attempting to emulate some of the fun of the dual Paladin bomb in 9th, and one from Ben Cherwien, which took third place at one of the first GT-level events played in 9th. GDFC Podcast #3: The Mindful 40K Player and 9th Edition. This will be a process as getting to all the factions, but for now you can find all the points including Forge World, Special Rules, Stratagems, Warlord Traits, Points, Chapter Tactics, Psychic Powers, FAQs, … This has hurt the army’s ability to cast smite a lot and really limited one of their many abilities. For most of 8th Edition, Grey Knights were a bit of a joke. Jesse here, one of the Warhammer 40,000 playtesters from sunny California. Games Workshop slaps some Armies in the face while giving handouts to others. [1a][1e] Each member of the chapter undergoes a gruelling and torturous selection process, and even once inducted, their harsh training regime is without equal. Spider and Bone clash with two armies that have been struggling throughout 8th edition, to field test their new points drops from Chapter Approved 2019! We’ve sort of already covered off what I’m going to say here – Strike Marines are substantially down in utility (but still fine to take a few units of to fill up your battalion if needed) while Terminators go up in value a lot. You should expect to see plenty of Grey Knights armies at your local events since they’re super-strong coming into the new edition. Grey Knights Tactics and Strategies Warhammer 40k 9th Edition 1,850 Point Battle Report: Custodes vs Orks 2019 Year End Review: Looking Back at a Year of Competitive Hobbying Blast says, “If a blast weapon targets a unit that has between 6 and 10 models, it always makes a minimum of 3 attacks.” If your army is led by a GREY KNIGHTS Warlord, you can give one of the following Relics of Titan to a GREY KNIGHTS CHARACTER model from your army instead of giving them a Relic from Codex: Grey Knights. If you don’t think they’re ready to try and take the centre in force you want probably want to deploy: If you go first, you want to try and get off one volley of Astral Aimed Tide of Convergence Psybolt Ammunition from the big squad via using Edict Imperator prior to switching to shadows, and to move them onto a middle objective at the same time, ideally trailing out models far enough to still screen Voldus and the Apothecary. Sunday Preview: New Warhammer 40,000 Starter Sets. These lists have a lot of overlapping elements, which is probably going to be quite common – while Grey Knight still have powerful stuff, their really good options are pretty clear at this point. There are always going to be winners and losers, as far as worthwhile units are concerned, but Grey Knights, have always been victims of very poor internal balancing, from my foxhole. In the first article last week, I discussed the double Paladin bomb, and the tools that Grey Knights players have to make Paladins all the more durable than they already are. This is my Mount … Like a lot of factions, Grey Knights see relatively light changes to their HQs, with almost all the regular ones going up 5pts (technically 6 on the Chaplain because his storm bolter isn’t offset by a melee weapon change), Voldus going up 7 and Draigo by 10. For more reviews, bat reps, tactics discussions, and analysis check out the Tactics Corner! With the reduction in HQ slot availability, and a need to lock in powers pre-game, there are inevitably going to be situations where being able to sneak a character into the Elites slot becomes highly relevant. Whatever name you think of when you think of the Imperium’s pre-eminent daemon fighters, one thing you don’t think about is how powerful and competitive Grey Knights are on the tabletop. Fresh-Faced New User I feel like 9th edition is build exacly for Grey Knights. Pop the +1 to wound stratagem to wound the Knight on 3s. Like with almost every faction, there’s probably a bit more play in running Rhinos than there used to be, but here I think you want to adapt to the missions by swapping to Terminators rather than buying Strikes Rhinos. This has actually already been used to success in one of the armies we’ll look at at the end, so anyone whose had these on the shelf since Ritual dropped should probably start dusting them off! A Grey Knights Terminator's primary armament is a Nemesis Force Weapon of some kind, selected from the Chapter's Armoury according to the skills and preferences of its wielder. Mainly single bat with kappic or 133rd, triprime 4xfull plasma 2xfull hotshot melta commands 4-5 tauroxes 2-3 valks 9th is rough so far, the tauroxes perform ok with the insave from 133rd, and are … At the close of 8th Edition, the double Paladin bomb Grey Knight list was one of the armies to beat. The list is below. Control the Tides, stay protected, and remember all your dang rules to get this army to actually work. Warhammer 40k 9th Edition 1,850 Point Battle Report: Custodes vs Orks. Grey Knights Tactics. Terminators come out better. I should have said lets play again and select a different number to get a number that is not 5. Sigh. The first part of your response, “can attempt to manifest more than one psychic power”, doesn’t limit what you cast at all, if you look at the complete quote it says, “If the Psycher can attempt to…you can then attempt to manifest those, one at a time, as describe above” that just says if you have the ability/permission to do it than you can. So that one stumped me a bit lol. You are slightly susceptible to blast, but I haven’t found it to have much impact yet. Finally Paladins, the terror of late 8th. The missions tend to reward units that can operate in multiple phases. These get one of the bigger point changes in the book, going up six points each (and a few extra on psycannons). This is open and shut that you are allowed to manifest smite more than once. This is generally pretty effective, as you have a healthy host of defences you can stack up – importantly probably enough to power two units at once. Man I missed you two doing reports together. Grey Knights have a whole array of tricks to make tough models even tougher (dropping Redoubtable Defence on a squad of 5 is cheap and makes them a pain to remove in particular), and this gives them a very effective way to mess with the objectives. 7 mins read. Published on 13 December 2020, 02:57 -06:00 Author Gordon James Share article The post has been shared by 0 people. Tactics. In regards to using it for Salamander tactics, I currently use it on a squad of 3 or more Centurion Devastators with Lascannons. RAW, the minimum 3 is applied per-weapon. Grab a plate, scoop yourself some, and let’s talk about my Grey Knights … Fireside with Pendulin: Grey Knights. More wargaming tactica and posts on my blog HERE: http://www.wargamerfritz.com Keep the spice flowing! You already saw these in lists as “one more character”, and I don’t see that changing. You can still deal a reasonable amount of damage while under this tide – Grey Knights have a built in +1 to casts, and you can boost them up in a wide area with Empyric Surge to help you land a volley of damage at the right moment, but the amount you can ratchet your opponent’s defences down is substantially reduced. By using abilities like Gate of Infinity and Edict Imperator to push early, you also force them to commit to trying to engage your bigger units early on when they’re still at full power, certainly not the most comfortable position to be in when against this army. Sorry. A Grey Knight Gunner armed with Psilencer – Credit: Pendulin. While I have your eyeballs AP, in regards to blast minimum for units 6-10 models, I think the definition of minimum value in the appendix says that the blast minimum is per die not per weapon/model and so for a 2d6 shot weapon it should be 6 attacks minimum. Grey Knights are one of the top psychic armies on the same level as daemons and eldar. So with a new edition and now the long journey of updating everything! Today’s article takes a look at one of the biggest winners of late 8th Edition, Grey Knights. We have no idea if nemesis weapons will get the same updates as regular power weapons. Finally, Purgation squads. Paladins, the masters of tarpitting, also remain extremely good at it (though they did get enough of a point increase that I think two units is now a tough sell). 40k. A light against the darkness, the Grey Knights stand against the greatest threat Mankind has ever faced. All Rights Reserved. These all went up pretty modestly once you factor in their gun costs, so end up a little less costly compared to the field as a whole. Your eight Repentia get 4 attacks each, hitting on 4s with rerolls, for an average of 24 hits. Shane: I actually quite like Chaplains here still, with them knowing 2 Litanies, the fact that Invocation of Focus (extra -1AP) is always good, and that Litany of Faith gives out a 6″ aura of 5+++ vs mortal wounds makes for 2 good litanies to lock into a list. Grey Knights 8th Edition - The Blood of Kittens Network Having laboured for most of the edition under the curse of an early codex, Ritual of the Damned has provided the Grey Knights with a Page 10/23. On top of that the 9th Edition missions are heavily favored toward to taking and holding objectives. These and other materials (dice, measuring tools, glue, paints, etc.) It also means there are not many good "shooting castle" strategies that will abuse range against you. Or do you mean Tabletop titans don’t get GK? Grey Knights Unit Breakdown: I go in depth about my opinions on all of the units int he GK Codex! You also probably don’t want Chaplains nearly as much – being forced to choose their Litany at list building time makes them massively weaker, as the Grey Knight ones are quite niche. Overall – get out your Terminators, look sadly at the 30 falchion Strikes you probably have. The Grey Knights are the most mysterious of all the Imperium's warriors. That being said I think GWs intent is to limit the casting of smite to once per psycher per turn, they just didn’t put the line into the rules and it should be FAQed with the first core rules FAQ. Servitors: Why bother with these things? The permission to cast smite more than once a battle round is granted by the first part of the subsection, see the paragraph directly above this one. These are the ones that stand out. Grey Knights ++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium – Grey Knights) ++ + HQ + Grand Master Voldus: 6: Lore Master, Armoured Resilience, Edict Imperator, Ethereal Manipulation, Inner Fire, Warlord. for an average of 16 wounds. Strike Marines go up three points each, and are a bit more constrained in terms of upgrades. Grey Knights, Review, Ritual of the Damned, tactica. Saddled with one of the very first codex released in 8 th Edition, the boys in silver tuxedos have struggled to be relevant in the 40K scene. Hello fans of Frontline Gaming and TFGRadio, SaltyJohn here to bring you a review of the new 8th edition Grey Knights bread and butter troops choice, the Strike Squad! Are they still an army to beat? 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